Second 2012 Presidential Debate October 30 in Washington, DC

I think the voting system to decide which two Candidates get to attend the second debate should be bracketed; Gary Johnson VS Virgil Goode and Jill Stein VS Rocky Anderson.

where do we vote on the two to got to D.C.?

Where does one vote to determine which of the 4 candidates advance to second debate? What is the URL?

I don’t like the top 2 runoff idea. I want to hear from all 4 candidates. knocking out 2 candidates seems counter to the purpose of free and equal.

Ok. How do I participate in the run-off vote?

I refuse to vote. This reeks of an exclusionary process that you profess to be against.

For all of the states in which Rocky Anderson will either be on the ballot or is a state certified Write-In candidate, go here; voterocky.org

Why do you need to exclude the other two from the next debate? I want to hear all sides in the next debate too. What’s the point of having Third Party Debate then?

I enjoyed hearing varied opinions, from the far left socialist Green Party candidate Jill Stein, to the far right Libertarian Gary Johnson.

I also appreciated the fact that the candidates were actually allowed to discuss and debated (well, not really as they all agreed it was unconstitutional) NDAA and drone strikes.

We need to promote these debates as much as possible, we are close, people, coming really close to scaring the two party tyranny into submission and getting third parties more involved and active.

bring all 4 back, if you will eliminate one only.. lets bring this full circle and get one elected.. a 6 party system would create competition in politics and push to make a change we can believe in.

Yes, all 4 candidates should be included in the next debate.

“One commenter below suggested cardboard cutouts of Romney and Obama to
stand alongside the candidates – could be good for a constant reminder
of what we may end up with, and will certainly make every argument from
our alternative candidates even tastier.” – Totally agree. How much $$ you need to get this done?? And then invite CNN/MSNBC/FAUX. Good times.

Come on FreeandEqual.org. Stop being the tools you claim to be a contrast from. Let them all debate on Oct 30. This 2 winner format is bogus and you know it. For the same reasons Ron Paul always got 99 percent of every internet poll you know who the winners are going to be before you begin to count the vote. I just voted myself 5 times from this computer to prove that point. LET THEM ALL DEBATE!

Doctor Jill Stein was superb. We need the Green New Deal. Rail Jobs! Solar Jobs! Geothermal Jobs! Wind Jobs! The Green Party has the right idea. Applause to Virgil Goode of Virginia for his fiscal conservative vision – that agrees with Dr. Stein of the Green Party. We must cut U.S. military spending to common sense levels. Bravo!

It will be interesting to see where all this comes out. Nice to see a start toward getting information to voters. We’ve so much education to do in our country! And we need action so soon! I hope the planet can hold on while we learn…

1. Anderson, 2. Stein, 3. Johnson, 4. Goode. But they ALL made a great deal more sense than the two corporate lackeys.

Debate starts at 22:00minutes

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/exclusive_expanding_the_debate_with_third

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/5065a6f302a76025c500008a

Go GaryJohnson2012.com and Judge Jim Gray!!!!!! LIVE FREE!!!!!! REVOLUTION2!!!! Gotta love those coffee mugs….check them out…”gary understands”….etc. The most effective way to send a message to Washington to get it together is to vote LIbertarian this election. In a system of checks and balances, we have become imbalanced…..time to get fiscally fit and back on track!

Man. It is good to be here.

None of these candidates will fare well in the general election–we all know that. There is no good reason to narrow down the field. The debates, despite some adherents who have unrealistic hopes, should focus on the issue of speech–the issue that they raised to justify these debates and their differences with the CPD. These are alternative debates presumably to allow those excluded to speak. This voting issue to narrow down the field is rather shameful and presumptuous

#Anonymous appreciates this attempt at a democratic and open solution. Anything that isn’t inclusive is just a joke and not worth participating in at all. Thanks.

Third-party candidates finally get their own presidential debate….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/24/third-party-candidates-finally-get-their-own-presidential-debate/

I’ve read that many people don’t like the idea to exclude any candidates in the final debate, so why not splitting the final debate into two debates, a A final and a B final? The two with higher scores would participate in the A final and the other two in the B. As Ryan said, it’s necessary to limit participation so that there can be real debate and discussion of the issues instead of just a group of candidates stating their positions like in the first debate.

I’d also rename the debates. Instead of “The Third Party Presidential Debate” “The Open Presidential Debates” since the bipartisan candidates were also invited, and as with the open tournaments, the participation is open to any candidate, there’re qualifying rounds (the first debate) and a final (or two, A final and B final).

I think it was effective that the candidates in addition to answering the specific questions gave rebuttles that contrasted their positions to Obama and Romney rather than each other. As Gary’s VP pointed out we know the democrats and republicans have been speaking in platitudes not plans. These debates give time to attack that. I thought the social media questions were brilliant by the way. It makes me proud to know there are people who can form such good questions with complete sentences in America.

“A meaningful estate tax is needed to prevent our democracy from becoming a dynastic plutocracy.” -Warren Buffett

1) We should eliminate ALL Fractional Reserve Lending by Private Banks, only
allowing PUBLIC Banking Institutes like the Bank of North Dakota to use
Fractional Reserve Lending (as suggested in the documentary “The Secret of
Oz” by Bill Still).

*Note: U.S. Fractional Reserve Lending rules CURRENTLY allow all Private Banksters to lend approximately 9 or 10 times the money they actually have (charging HUGE interest on essentially counterfeit digital money).*

2) We should have only one “15% Inflation Tax” and end all State and
Federal Income Tax, saving approximately a Half $Trillion Dollars per year in
Federal and State Income Tax compliance costs (worthless paperwork filing costs,
etc.). This is described in the documentary “Money As Debt – parts I,II, or
III” by Paul Grignon.

3) If Congress approves only one INFLATION TAX, we should give a small
automatic monthly subsidy to people with low net worth to correct its
regressive nature.

4) We should enact a 100% Estate Tax & Gift Tax for ALL money to Heirs
exceeding $1 Billion Dollars (including their bogus ‘Foundation’ fronts) to help
end Plutocracy. ALL the money should go directly to fund Education and Training
programs throughout the United States, with a focus on the needed skills of the future and high performance results. Ask yourself what Hillary Clinton once asked: Do we want a Plutocracy or Meritocracy? (paraphrased)

“A meaningful estate tax is needed to prevent our democracy from becoming
a dynastic plutocracy.” -Warren Buffett

*Note:

An carefully monitored Inflation Tax can work by PUBLIC Banks, like the Bank of
North Dakota, simply printing the extra money they need for public funding
needs – up to the 15% inflation mark (eliminating ALL Federal and State Income Taxes). Currently, we already monitor inflation, so the transition costs would be near $0. In the past, the U.S. Government created its own money, utilizing money called the “Greenback”. This time, obviously we need to make sure it cannot be counterfeited by England or others, like it was in the 1800s (we are already pretty good at reducing counterfeiting of physical cash- we need to continue improving that process). Currently we borrow “money” from Private Banks that they literally create out of thin-air, making private bankers rich and powerful with our HUGE interest payments on their counterfeit digital money. They literally type numbers on a keyboard, essentially making money
out of nothing and then charge homeowners, small business owners, etc. interest on
it. Private Banks do NOT deserve a penny of interest from us on money that they
created out of thin-air with some key strokes! They should ONLY be able to loan
money they actually have. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) recently
released a report called “The Chicago Plan Revisited” in August 2012,
supporting the notion of money being created directly from the government,
ELIMINATING THE PRIVATE BANKS ability to create money out of thin-air. It
appeared to me, they suggested allowing ONLY Public Banking Institutions (like
the BND) to create money and recycle any interest payments back into the
public, would add 10% annual GDP growth!!! I know it’s hard to believe, but
it’s true – Fractional Reserve Lending rules in the U.S. CURRENTLY allow Private Banks to create money out of thin-air (and they get to keep our HUGE interest payments on it). Check out the “www.PublicBankingInstitute.org” for more information on how we can
and SHOULD control our own supply of money. Don’t let the situation in Greece
and Spain happen to us. Remember, we have over $16 Trillion Dollars in
government debt – it could happen to us if we keep empowering private
banksters. Take a look at what happened in Iceland. They put criminal bankers
in jail, INSTEAD of paying them interest on money they created out of thin-air.
Now their economy is relatively strong.

Remember:

A) CORRECT THE BALANCE OF POWER – END FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING FOR PRIVATE-BANKS. TRANSITION TO LIMITED MONEY CREATION ONLY BY FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES SUCH AS THE BANK OF NORTH DAKOTA (Don’t allow big private banksters to create counterfeit money and charge homeowners, consumers, small businesses, etc. interest on it. Money should only be created By The People For The People, with interest on newly created money rolling back into the public. This will help to rebalance power and income away from the Big Private Banksters, into the hands of the small businesses, consumers, families, etc.)

B) INITIATE ONLY ONE 15% INFLATION TAX,

C) ENACT A 100% ESTATE TAX & GIFT TAX FOR ALL MONEY TO HEIRS EXCEEDING $1 BILLION DOLLARS (INCLUDING THEIR BOGUS ‘FOUNDATION’ FRONTS),

and

D) BRING BACK THE GREENBACK!!!

ALSO- IF YOU WOULD LIKE; COPY, PASTE, SEND, USE, AND LIKE MY MESSAGE TO EVERY SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW…

ENACT “THE CHICAGO PLAN REVISITED” FROM THE I.M.F.: HELP OUR GDP (ECONOMY) GROW 10% PER YEAR AND END BANKSTER PLUTOCRACY!